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Todd Ireland
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Posted: 09 April 2007 at 9:10pm | IP Logged Quote Todd Ireland

I was listening to Mr. Mister's "Is It Love" on their Best of CD (Buddha 99779) and notice it contains a different mix than the one on the group's parent CD/LP Welcome to the Real World. The version on Best of is a "hotter" mix with louder percussion and added reverb. The insert tray on the back of the Best of CD case indicates that all songs on the disc appear "in the original single versions". This claim seems to carry some credibility given the fact that other Top 40 hits such as "Broken Wings" and "Kyrie" do indeed appear in 45 version form on this CD.   

I e-mailed Ed to see if he could shoot me an mp3 of his "Is It Love" 45 so that I can compare it to the mix on Best of and see if it checks out. However, I'm not sure if Ed has returned from his travels yet. Can anyone confirm or deny if we have a 45/LP mix difference here?
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Posted: 10 April 2007 at 6:33pm | IP Logged Quote Pat Downey

I only have a dj copy of this 45, and the dj 45 is not the version found on "Best Of" which must be a remix.
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Posted: 10 April 2007 at 7:14pm | IP Logged Quote cmmmbase

My stock 45 appears to be the lp mix as well....
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Posted: 13 April 2007 at 7:59pm | IP Logged Quote Todd Ireland

The remixed version appearing on the Best of disc also runs a bit longer than all other CD apprearances. Can anyone confirm for us the run time of their "Is It Love" commercial 45 copy?

Also, Pat, I see the song has a shortened run time of 3:23 on the 1985 - Only Love - 1989 CD compared to all other disc appearances in the database. Is this run time a typo, an early fade, or an edit of some sort?
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Posted: 14 April 2007 at 5:52am | IP Logged Quote Pat Downey

Todd, the (3:23) version found on JCI 3186 is just an early fade of the song.
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Posted: 09 October 2019 at 2:44pm | IP Logged Quote Bellenger1981

The stock 45 label states "remixed by Mike Shipley".
Perhaps this is an issue in which the "LP Version"
accidentally got pressed to vinyl instead of the remixed
version by Mike Shipley. When compiling the "Best Of"
for 2001, the planned single remix was discovered in the
vaults. Have we confirmed all these years later that the
"LP Version" is on all 45 stock copies?

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Posted: 09 October 2019 at 6:35pm | IP Logged Quote eriejwg

The original video seems to have the LP mix.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWxxRlVNM30

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Posted: 09 October 2019 at 6:37pm | IP Logged Quote eriejwg

Video of a commercial 45 being played with the LP mix.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5dZ4uPSiV0

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Posted: 09 October 2019 at 8:25pm | IP Logged Quote Bellenger1981

Thank you, eriejwg!

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Posted: 05 July 2021 at 9:34am | IP Logged Quote promojunkie

Bumping this thread back up regarding the remix heard on
some of the "Best Of" cds. I think this is an edited
remix of the dance mix version found on the promo
and commercial 12" vinyl. I compared them and they are
identical in sound just not length. The interesting
thing is I don't see any evidence of a radio mix on any
7" or 12" vinyl from 85/86 on Discogs. I wonder if this
edited mix was created for the best of cd in 2001 or
just hasn't been listed on Discogs yet.

Edited by promojunkie on 06 July 2021 at 2:29pm


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Quote:
I wonder if this edited mix
was created for the best of cd in 2001.


I have the 2001 "Best Of", and I don't see any indication that it was created specifically for the compilation. There's no indication in the liner notes
about it being "Previously Unreleased" or a "New Mix" or some such term. Only the last song on the comp, "Waiting In My Dreams", is specifically labelled
as being "Previously Unreleased". In fact, the back inlay of the compilation actually says, " The Best Of Mr. Mister features all their hits - in
the original single versions -along with a previously unreleased track and rare, never-before-seen photos".

The scenario that Jason mentioned earlier about the LP Version possibly being accidentally used on the 45 instead of the Mike Shipley remix seems like a
plausible explanation as to why no one has seemed to find the remix on any pressings of the 45.

Also, while the 45 gives a remix credit to Mike Shipley, the Dance Mix on the 12" gives remix credit to Victor Flores. So if the remix appearing on the
2001's "Best Of" is edited down from the 12" and is the version that was meant to be on the 45, shouldn't both gentlemen have been given credit on the 45
label? Unfortunately, the "Best Of" compilation doesn't give any remix credits in the liner notes, only production credits to Paul DeVillers & Mr.
Mister.



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Posted: 06 July 2021 at 2:07pm | IP Logged Quote davidlg1971

thecdguy wrote:
The scenario that Jason mentioned earlier about the LP Version possibly being accidentally used on the 45 instead of the Mike Shipley remix
seems like a plausible explanation as to why no one has seemed to find the remix on any pressings of the 45.

Also, while the 45 gives a remix credit to Mike Shipley, the Dance Mix on the 12" gives remix credit to Victor Flores. So if the remix appearing on the 2001's
"Best Of" is edited down from the 12" and is the version that was meant to be on the 45, shouldn't both gentlemen have been given credit on the 45 label?


Jus to clarify, Mike Shipley is credited with remixing 4 tracks on Welcome To The Real World, including Is It Love.

So any use of the LP version with Shipley's remix credit is correct. Which I guess puts us back to the original question of where the single edit of Victor
Flores' Dance Mix originally appeared.

I always assumed it was released on a 45 somewhere circa 1986, so I'm surprised there's no evidence of that. (So far, anyway!)
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Posted: 08 July 2021 at 4:58pm | IP Logged Quote Bellenger1981

Thanks for pointing this out, David, as I failed to
notice that Shipley also gets credit as remixing the
original LP version. This single edit of the Victor
Flores Dance Mix probably was done at the time but
remained in the vaults until it was pulled for the 2001
Best Of compilation, in which the compilers assumed that
it was officially released on the 45.

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Posted: 09 July 2021 at 5:54am | IP Logged Quote thecdguy

I just came across an unusual listing for "Is It Love" on Discogs. This listing is from Peru and the label says "33 1/3 RPM" but you can clearly see
from the photo that it's a 45. Its title is "Is It Love (Es Esto Amor) (Dance Mix)". No listed running time on the label or from Discogs, so no way to
tell if it's the remix on the 2001 "Best Of" or the full Dance Remix on the 12" Single. All other listings on Discogs from other countries seem to be
the same as the US 45.

Is It Love (Es Esto Amor) (Dance Mix)

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Some 7" singles run 33 1/3, so it's possible that single has the full 12" dance remix. I'd say it's doubtful that Peru is the only country that released the short remix on vinyl.

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