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Pat: Someone recently mentioned on another Board that, from the 1:40-1:47 mark of this song, the lyric "feel you beside me" is repeated twice on the 45, but on the CD versions, during this same segment, the lyric is instead sung as "feel you deep inside (of) me," repeated twice as well. To confirm, I just listened to my original 45, as well as my Rhino 2-CD Grass Roots' Anthology. I can confirm that the poster was 100% correct with his info, and the database will need to be amended to reflect this. Since I only checked just the one CD, hopefully at least one of this song's many other CD appearances in the database will happen to have included the "45 lyric."
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Ah but Jim, the catch is that there were two pressings of the 45 of "Let's Live For Today" with the first pressing including the "LP lyrics" of "feel you deep inside of me". To date, all cd appearances feature the lyric line "feel you inside of me".
Edited by Pat Downey on 28 March 2007 at 6:44am
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I do not believe the Mono "hit" mix has appeared on CD...
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Pat, thanks for those additional details. I pulled out my promo 45, and it DOES include, as you word it, the "LP lyrics", with deadwax of D-01099. I have a feeling there might be a second promo out there, featuring the more-1967-radio-friendly "beside me" lyric. Can anybody help? I have 3 copies of the original 45, Pat, all featuring the "beside me" lyric. The deadwaxes for all three are "45-01099RE". The "RE" is in small capital latters, is half the size of the other info, making it look like it's a "footnote." Pat, does your stock 45 have "D-01099" as deadwax?
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My only commercial copy has the RE suffix.
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As a further note for my "beside me" lyric, 1967 commercial 45, it has a listed time of (2:35), but an actual time of (2:44).
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I know i'm just splitting hairs here, but the digital dub I have of my 45 is 2:44.731 which i would personally round up to say 2:45 (the file was edited so that all dead silence was cut out at the beginning and the song starts dead on at 0:00.00). This is an older dub left on my computer from when the discussion about the alternate version was first brought up, but was still dubbed using my Stanton STR8-80 direct drive turntable, i would be happy to re-time the 45 with a new digital dub in a few weeks when everything is moved to its new home and i have time to dig it out, if anyone feels it would help contribute more to the accuracy of the timing. Personally, though, if Jim got 2:44 that is good enough for me and is definitely close enough to what my dub shows.
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Tom, whenever you've done a digital dub, down to the 1/100th of a second, I'll go with the technology here.
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For what it's worth, I don't round up numbers when I time music. My opinion is that if our goal is to obtain pinpoint accurate run times, then a song doesn't officially run 2:45 until is actually hits the 2:45:00 mark on a digital timer. Granted, a song that fades out can be more subjective from one set of ears to another as to when an audio signal is no longer heard. In those cases, if I determine a song finishes fading out at between, say, the 2:44.9 and 2:45.00 mark, then I'll go with 2:45.
Again, this is just one passionate collector's method to his madness. I won't lose sleep if other board members prefer to round a run time up to the nearest half second.
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Just adding a question to this old thread. I have two
different stereo mixes of "Let's Live For Today" in my
collection. The first mix, which I have on The Grass
Roots 20th Century Masters and Rhino's 2 disc Anthology,
has a wider soundstage with most of the instrumentation
hard panned to the left channel and the lead vocals going
right to left on the first verse. The other stereo mix I
have on Madacy's Various Artists Spirit of The 60s disc
(which is a single-disc version of Cornerstone's 2-CD set
of the same name). This mix has most of the
instrumentation and lead vocal centered with other stereo
information occurring mostly during the chorus. Where did
this alternate stereo mix originate?
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LunarLaugh wrote:
Where did
this alternate stereo mix originate?
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MCA LP compilation 'Vintage Music Vol.10'.
"Let's Live For Today" was remixed (and
mastered) by Steve Hoffman.
Andy
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AndrewChouffi wrote:
"Let's Live For Today" was remixed (and
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This may sound like an odd question, but there were two types of CDs released in the "Vintage Music" catalog. The first, (I suppose), was a single disc per issue. And another was
taking two issues together on a single CD. Were the mastering credits the same for both? I don't have the one issue per CD versions, But I do have the vinyl versions.
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Not an odd question at all.
As far as I know, the individual releases (10 tracks per disc) had the same mastering as the paired-up releases (20 tracks per disc). I think I verified this myself a long time ago with Vol. 8.
Steve Hoffman mastered the first ten volumes. No mastering credit given to the second ten volumes.
I still haven't figured out why they were released as both individual and paired-up configurations. Different price points, so that it was less expensive to buy a 20-track disc than two 10-track discs? Not sure.
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Here's how my memory goes...
Vintage Music volumes 1 thru 10 (ten tracks a piece) were
released as single budget-priced albums and cassettes in
1986.
The dubs were a revelation to my ears. I quickly bought
all ten volumes.
Later on (possibly the same year) 5 regularly-priced CDs
came out with 2 LPs worth of tracks (20 cuts a piece)
making them a must-purchase as by that time I owned a CD
player.
This is where my memory gets extra fuzzy: a few years
later the first 5 CDs were split into 10 budget-priced
CDs (like the original LPs/cassettes) under possibly a
different (albeit similar) title. No need for me to buy
them as I liked the 20 track CDs...
Experts out there please correct me where I'm wrong!
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LunarLaugh wrote:
Just adding a question to this old thread. I have two
different stereo mixes of "Let's Live For Today" in my
collection. The first mix, which I have on The Grass
Roots 20th Century Masters and Rhino's 2 disc Anthology,
has a wider soundstage with most of the instrumentation
hard panned to the left channel and the lead vocals going
right to left on the first verse. The other stereo mix I
have on Madacy's Various Artists Spirit of The 60s disc
(which is a single-disc version of Cornerstone's 2-CD set
of the same name). This mix has most of the
instrumentation and lead vocal centered with other stereo
information occurring mostly during the chorus. Where did
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Actually, there's a third stereo mix of this with the lead vocals hard-panned to the right, and background vocals hard panned
to the left. I have this on an Era/K-Tel comp called "Battle Of The Bands-Vol. 2".
Any idea where this mix came from?
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Hykker wrote:
LunarLaugh wrote:
Just adding a
question to this old thread. I have two
different stereo mixes of "Let's Live For Today" in my
collection. The first mix, which I have on The Grass
Roots 20th Century Masters and Rhino's 2 disc Anthology,
has a wider soundstage with most of the instrumentation
hard panned to the left channel and the lead vocals going
right to left on the first verse. The other stereo mix I
have on Madacy's Various Artists Spirit of The 60s disc
(which is a single-disc version of Cornerstone's 2-CD set
of the same name). This mix has most of the
instrumentation and lead vocal centered with other stereo
information occurring mostly during the chorus. Where did
this alternate stereo mix originate? |
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Actually, there's a third stereo mix of this with
the lead vocals hard-panned to the right, and background
vocals hard panned
to the left. I have this on an Era/K-Tel comp called
"Battle Of The Bands-Vol. 2".
Any idea where this mix came from? |
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Do the lead vocals stay in the in right for the entire
song, or do they drift over to the left right before the
chorus?
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My copy of 'Battle Of The Bands Vol. 2' has Grill's lead
vox stay on the left; Entner's countdown on the right.
I, too, would like to find where this mix originated as
this transfer has undecoded Dolby marring the sound quality
and I wouldn't mind having a better-sounding version of
this mix.
Andy
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My copy of this is buried in the closet and
I can't currently access it, but I believe a
lot of tracks were remixed on this:
https://www.discogs.com/release/2584263-The-
Grassroots-The-ABC-Collection
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