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Revisiting "Jeans On", five years later...
It appears that the LP version and the UK 45 are in extremely narrow stereo. The synthy instrument at 0:53 is panned just-so-slightly to the left, as noted above. Everything else is pretty much centered.
The LP/UK 45 version runs about 3:16. The ending of the LP/UK 45 version is looped - the 52 beats from 1:59 to 2:29 are repeated from 2:29 to 2:58. The same 52-beat passage begins one more time at 2:58, but extends only for 32 beats, with a 32-beat fade from 2:58 to about 3:16.
I prefer the LP/UK 45 version on Disky UK's 8-CD Greatest Hits Of The '70s (2000), which runs 3:16. It has a decent dynamic range, a slightly brassy EQ, and seems to be from a tape source. The track uses a drum machine, and there's a little tape drift, so the song starts at 104.7 BPM and ends at about 105.0 BPM. There's an edit at 2:58, which you can hear if you listen for it. The edit also shows up as a discontinuity between adjacent beats.
The LP/UK 45 version also sounds good on EMI Australia's 5-CD Seventies Complete Vol. 2 (1999), where it runs 3:17 and seems to be taken from a tape source. I've said bad things about the EMI Australia 5-CD sets, but this track sounds quite nice here.
Unless my ears fail me, I believe I found two UK CDs that have an electronically processed for stereo version of the LP/UK 45 version! That's right, the dreaded (E)! Avoid Disky UK's Beat Goes On Vol. 9 (1997) and Disky UK's 8-CD Wow That Was The 70's (1999), both of which pan everything to the left (in an E sort of way) and warble when summed to mono.
I have two different needledrops of the 45, and both show a non-musical thunk about 0.1 seconds before the keyboards kick in. It's probably a mastering error, and isn't on the CDs I listed above. One needledrop of the 45 runs 2:37; the other runs about 2:35 but includes noise reduction so it's tough to hear where the fade ends. It, too, is the same very narrow stereo, with the synthy instrument panned slightly left at 0:53.
The US 45 version can be edited down from the LP/UK 45 version. Here are editing instructions, using Disky UK's 8-CD Greatest Hits Of The '70s (2000) as the source:
Segment 1
254 beats long
Extends from 0:00.0 to 2:25.7 of US 45 version and LP/UK 45 version
Ends on a downbeat
Remove the 32 beats from 2:25.7 to 2:44.0 of the LP/UK 45 version.
Segment 2
Begins on a downbeat
25 beats long
Extends from 2:25.7 to 2:39.9 of US 45 version
Extends from 2:44.0 to 2:58.2 of LP/UK 45 version
Ends on a snare
Fade
45 beats long
Extends from 2:14.3 to 2:39.9 of US 45 version
You'll have to do the edit first, then do the fade afterward, because the fade extends over the edit.
Your mixdown will run 2:39.9, with an edit at 2:25.7 and a 45-beat fade from 2:14.3 to 2:39.9.
The version on Rhino's Have A Nice Day Vol. 19 (1993) is pretty darn close to the US, but differs in four ways: (1) it omits the thunk at 0:00, (2) it's mixed to true mono, (3) it shortens the pause at 0:37 by about 0.02 seconds, which isn't all that significant but it visibly throws off the beats in the waveform, and (4) it runs a little short at 2:34. It also sounds like it's underwater, compared to the LP versions I listed above. In the US, it appears that all the CDs that feature the song are based on the Have A Nice Day Vol. 19 mastering, so you're out of luck unless you look for a UK disc.
Edited by crapfromthepast on 29 October 2015 at 8:00am
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crapfromthepast wrote:
I believe I found two UK CDs
that have an electronically processed for stereo
version of the LP/UK 45 version! That's right, the
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And then there's the true stereo version I have on a various artist UK 2-CD set "40 No. 1 Hits". That's my "go to" version. As I mentioned earlier in this thread, I edited it to match the edit of the US mono 45, but this way I get to hear it in true stereo and not E or mono.
Edited by EdisonLite on 28 October 2015 at 8:59pm
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Please accept my profound apologies for both the long delay in re-
checking my "Jeans On" 45, and for an inaccurate actual timing report
made back in 2008. "Senior Moments" are especially frustrating when
ultra-minute details and deep research are one's supposed area of
expertise. Gotta find some vintage notebook paper, and write "I will try
harder to be more accurate in the future" 500 times, like my CT teachers
made us do back in grammar school. (Ah, the good old days...)
I have no clue why I ever reported an actual run time of (2:34), as my
attached Post-it note has stated forever "listed and actual time (2:37)". My
re-timing tonight confirms (2:37), and that it runs just short of (2:38),
exactly as Robert's original post had noted. I own three stock 45s (all
confirmed as Chrysalis 2094). All three of them have the exact same
deadwax info: "CHS-2094-AS RE-1". There are three forceful, transitional
keyboard notes that appear twice during the song (the first at around :52,
as Robert had indicated earlier), and those are clearly the most stereo
notes of the song, and jumped out pretty clearly, even to my "OK at best"
ear for sonic detail.
I also own two Chrysalis 2094 promo 45 copies. The stereo side for both
copies has the exact same deadwax info as my 3 stock copies do, while
the mono side's deadwax is identical, save for one character - an "M"
where the "S" appeared on the stereo side. The mono side also has both a
listed & actual time of (2:37); again just short of (2:38).
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