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Posted: 04 November 2005 at 1:02pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk
Thanks for the info, Andy. I wonder if we'll get the actual 12" mix on the forthcoming box set or the 45 mix???
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Posted: 04 November 2005 at 1:27pm | IP Logged Quote EdisonLite
Hi Andy,

How long is the actual 12" mix? Is it still 4:44?
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Posted: 06 November 2005 at 11:40am | IP Logged Quote AndrewChouffi
Hi "EdisonLite"

12" promo of "Keeping The Faith" times out at 5:27.

7" single of "Keeping The Faith" times out at 4:52

Minor correction from my previous comment: Echo on the one "Yeh, Yeh, Yeh" IS present on the 45 mix, albeit mixed lower than on the 12" version.

While timing the two versions I noticed a few additional differences that I didn't mention in my previous posting. These include Joel "Whoa Whoa"-ing over the instrumental bridge on the 45 but not the 12"; two spots where a couple of measures were excised on the 45; a longer extro ('outro' if you prefer).

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Posted: 07 November 2005 at 4:15pm | IP Logged Quote Fetta
Just doing a little venting as I read a quote from Billy Joel's press release on the new box set:

"I wanted some more obscure things to be represented on this set," commented Billy Joel on the assemblage of My Lives. "I said, ‘Let's dig into the tapes, the B-sides, the recording sessions and movie songs, things that had never been released officially,’"

My question is, How can you not put "Sometimes A Fantasy" 45 Mix, how can you not put "Tell Her About It" 12" Mix. These are some of the most sought after recordings on CD. I just dont understand how they can not be represented on this box. Something tells me that we won't ever see these on a USA cd release.
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Posted: 07 November 2005 at 4:36pm | IP Logged Quote Brian W.
Yeah, I wish artists would let their FANS decide what's gonna go on these things. But then, Joel has withheld "Modern Woman" from every previous hits compilation simply because he doesn't like the song, so that says a lot right there.
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Posted: 27 November 2005 at 9:09pm | IP Logged Quote Brian W.
Uh, guys... has anyone bought "My Lives" yet? 'Cause All Music lists the running time of "Keepin' the Faith 12-inch Dance Remix" at 4:53... as does the download on Walmart.com.

Edited by Brian W. on 27 November 2005 at 9:11pm
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Posted: 28 November 2005 at 1:23pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk
I listened to the 30 second snippet on iTunes for "Keepin' The Faith" and I have two conclusions:

1) The mix does not sound like the 45 mix, and

2) The source on the sample sounds vinyl-ish to me. While this could just be the compressed file, the other song samples don't sound that way.

Does anyone acually own the box?
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Posted: 28 November 2005 at 3:47pm | IP Logged Quote AndrewChouffi
Hi People.

I just downloaded "Keeping The Faith" from Wal-Mart.

It is neither the 45 or the 12" promo mix (but it is closer in arrangement to the 45 with a slightly longer fade).

This mix has the percussion & Joel's lead vocal somewhat buried in the mix & a rhythm guitar more pronounced in the (phantom) center channel.

Yes there is some vinyl-sounding anomolies(!) but I don't think it's dubbed from vinyl, I just think it's poorly mastered (too compressed, sibilant, etc.).

Andy
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Posted: 28 November 2005 at 4:05pm | IP Logged Quote Brian W.
Screwed by Sony again!
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Posted: 29 November 2005 at 10:33pm | IP Logged Quote AndrewChouffi
Just to clarify my last posting, the 45 has a slightly longer fade than this new alternate mix on the box set.

Andy
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Posted: 30 November 2005 at 12:16am | IP Logged Quote aaronk
I also noticed in the 30 second sample on iTunes that there were added synthesizers and a different mix on the rest of the instruments, which I am guessing is how the 12" version sounds. Sony has a way of messing all of their products up...
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Posted: 01 December 2005 at 1:45am | IP Logged Quote AndrewChouffi
Hi "aaronk".

No, the 12" promo mix sounds somewhat close to the 45 version with the differences noted in one of my previous posts in this thread.

I don't know where they got this 'alternate mix of the single remix'.
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Posted: 01 December 2005 at 10:10am | IP Logged Quote aaronk
Hmmm, that is very interesting. So, this mix has never appeared anywhere except the box set. Thanks for the info, Andrew!

---Aaron
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Posted: 09 March 2006 at 10:09am | IP Logged Quote anthology123
Sometimes a fantasy not only has the extended ending, but the intro touch
tone phone number sounds different than the LP version, too.
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Posted: 17 April 2006 at 8:41am | IP Logged Quote edtop40
is brian saying what it looks like he's saying.........that the re-issue of the 2 cd set "greatest hits vol 1 & 2" DOES NOT contain the 45 versions like the original????

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Posted: 17 April 2006 at 9:55am | IP Logged Quote sriv94
edtop40 wrote:
is brian saying what it looks like he's saying.........that the re-issue of the 2 cd set "greatest hits vol 1 & 2" DOES NOT contain the 45 versions like the original????


Taking a look at allmusic.com, that seems to be exactly right. The original had the single versions of "Pressure," "Say Goodbye To Hollywood," "My Life" and "Big Shot" (plus a faded-earlier edit of "Just The Way You Are"). The reissue used the LP versions.

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Posted: 17 April 2006 at 12:45pm | IP Logged Quote Brian W.
edtop40 wrote:
is brian saying what it looks like he's saying.........that the re-issue of the 2 cd set "greatest hits vol 1 & 2" DOES NOT contain the 45 versions like the original????


That's right, Ed. Fortunately the original is easy to find used.
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EdisonLite wrote:
Todd writes: <Wait, EdisonLite, are

BTW, I don't believe the single mix of "Movin' Out" has been on any CD, US or import. And as far as I can remember, the only difference is that the car engine noise near the end of the song (as if to indicate Billy is driving away) was taken off the 45 version. Can anyone say if there were other differences?


Does anyone know why the car engine is not on the 45? Was this the first single from "The Stranger" album? If it was maybe the engine was addeed to the LP after the single was relased. I'm just taking a guess right now.
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Posted: 07 September 2006 at 7:29pm | IP Logged Quote cmmmbase
Movin' Out was the first and third single from "The Stranger"...
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Posted: 07 September 2006 at 9:40pm | IP Logged Quote chendagam
First and third? Can you explain. I've been trying to find a detailed singles discorgaphy on Billy Joel but haven't had any luck. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
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