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Posted: 19 March 2019 at 5:31pm | IP Logged Quote RichM921

My area had two Top 40 stations at the time. The bigger one (#1 in the
market) played the live version. The smaller station played the studio
version. I also consider the live version to be the hit.
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WLOL-FM in Minneapolis played the Live version in '87--I still have the cassette from when I taped it off the radio.
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If a classic hits station in your area still plays this
song which version do they play nowadays?

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When I hear it occasionally on the local classic hits station, it's the studio version. Also, for what it's worth, TM Century HitDisc 701 (issued in the fall of 1987) only had the studio edit. The live version was finally issued on a GoldDisc several years later in the early '90s. Must've been a case where airplay was split.

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eriejwg wrote:
If a classic hits station in your area
still plays this
song which version do they play nowadays?


Nowadays, it's ONLY the studio version that I hear on the
radio (in fact, just heard it on the way home last
night!). The "live" version just didn't have much of a
shelf life beyond 1987, but it was a hit.
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Paul Haney wrote:
Nowadays, it's ONLY the studio version that I hear on the radio (in fact, just heard it on the way home last night!). The "live" version just didn't have much of a shelf life beyond 1987, but it was a hit.


Right you are Paul. I just heard it yesterday on my radio station and it was the studio version. That is why in a 1987 overview both versions should be included if you are going to be accurate. Even then all I heard was the studio version in the late 80's and early 90's.
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Sorry to bump an old thread, but:

Has anyone ever tested and confirmed that the studio edit from 1987 (the promo 45 B-side) is an edit of the 1981 original mix? As I can't find a good copy of the B-side version (or "AA" as it was noted above, I believe), I can't judge for myself (strange how certain things don't even pop up on YouTube after so many years), but I was thinking it could be worth considering that the second-issued studio edit might be an edit of the 'Vital Idol' album version, aka the "Downtown Mix", as that compilation was issued in 1987 as well, right around the same time as the "Mony Mony" live single. Would love to find out, if anyone knows for sure. Thank you!
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If anyone else is curious:

I have obtained the Chrysalis Audio Buffet 2 promo CD from 1987, and have confirmed that the 1987 "Studio Version", as found on that CD and the B-side of the US 1987 promo 45, is an edit of the Vital Idol album version, aka the "Downtown Mix", as opposed to the original 1981 Don't Stop EP version. So, the details for re-creating the '87 studio edit provided by Gene on pg.1 on this thread would be correct, but need to be applied to the remix instead of the 1981 version. (To be very clear, the song structure is not any different from each other between the two versions, but there are some mix differences that you can hear doing an A/B comparison.)

The "Downtown Mix" of "Mony Mony" seems to have first appeared on the original overseas versions of the Vital Idol compilation, issued in 1985, and found its way to the US when that compilation was issued here in 1987.

The 1981 single edit is a true edit of the Don't Stop EP version. I have provided edit points for that one in this related thread. Enjoy!

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crapfromthepast wrote:
Just noticed that the Chrysalis promo sampler Audio
Buffet 2
(1987) has both the live version and the 4:15
studio version.

Happy to send these out if anyone wants them. Both are
pretty hard to come by nowadays.

I purchased that promo CD years ago and today I ripped (with EAC) an uncompressed WAV of the single edit/studio version and it was flagged as "lossy" (this track is MPEG with probability 95%) by Audiochecker. Other tracks off the promo CD reported similar lossy results.

Anyone else with the promo CD got results like these? Not sure how producers in 1987 could sneak in lossy audio in a CD as MP3 wasn't a thing yet.
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headstar wrote:
crapfromthepast wrote:
Just noticed that the Chrysalis promo sampler Audio Buffet 2 (1987) has both the live version and the 4:15 studio version.

Happy to send these out if anyone wants them. Both are pretty hard to come by nowadays.


I purchased that promo CD years ago and today I ripped (with EAC) an uncompressed WAV of the single edit/studio version and it was flagged as "lossy" (this track is MPEG with probability 95%) by Audiochecker. Other tracks off the promo CD reported similar lossy results.

Anyone else with the promo CD got results like these? Not sure how producers in 1987 could sneak in lossy audio in a CD as MP3 wasn't a thing yet.


Nope, there was no lossy audio in 1987.

Sounds like Audiochecker is mistaken. I ran Lossless Audio Checker and it showed all tracks on Audio Buffet 2 as being "clean".

I ran Trader's Little Helper on Audio Buffet 2 and it showed CDDA for all tracks except Icehouse's "Crazy" (MPEG with probability 99%) and Paul Carrack's "Don't Shed A Tear" (source cannot be qualified). Looking at the spectrum, nothing looks weird about these two songs. The intros of both of these songs show a hum at 15.625 kHz, from the cathode ray tubes of video monitors.

Bottom line: Don't blindly trust the software checkers.

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As I just reviewed the database and the two threads here, I thought I might condense what I was looking for (and thanks to everybody who helped put this together!):

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1981 - original mix (from "Don't Stop" EP) - 5:01
1981 - edit of EP mix - 3:23

1987 - Downtown remix (from "Vital Idol" LP) - 5:00
1987 - edit of Downtown remix - 4:15
1987 - live "hit" remake - 4:08
1987 - Hung Like a Pony Remix - 6:59
1987 - Steel-Toe Cat Dub - 6:50 (never on CD?)

2002 - 2001 live recording (from "VH1 Storytellers") - 4:06

2016 - 2016 live in Council Bluffs (from "BFI Live!") - (length unknown)

2018 - Idol/Stevens Mix (from "Vital Idol: Revitalized" digital release) - 5:41
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...did I miss anything?

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Thanks for the summary, Gene! FYI, while not available on CD, the "Steel-Toe Cat Dub" is currently available as part of a digital EP called Deep Cuts, released in
2009.
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