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Posted: 24 August 2006 at 5:28pm | IP Logged Quote edtop40

does anyone have a cd single for this song....the reason i ask is that the cassingle has a longer intro than the full cd version.....the intro sound like air rushing through a tube or a subtle cymbal roll.....the cassingle has it for a second or 2 while the full re-issue cd has the start of the song simultaneous with the vocals....i'm hoping the cd single either commercial, promo or import has the correct intro.......anyone??

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Posted: 24 August 2006 at 7:44pm | IP Logged Quote Pat Downey

Ed, I have the dj cd single which has 4 different versions on it and the lead track is called the "original recipe" (short) version which does have that sound effect on the introduction but it runs (3:52). None of the other 3 versions on my cd single have that particular introduction. Does your cassette single run (4:48) like the LP?

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Posted: 24 August 2006 at 9:28pm | IP Logged Quote edtop40

yes.....the cassingle version is listed as "original recipe (long)" and runs 4:48....it is identical to the full length cd/lp version but the noise intro runs a bit longer than the cd version intro....i was hoping that the intro was a carry over from the previous track but that's NOT the case........the previous song ends cold........i was hoping someone had the cd single that might have the correct intro...

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Posted: 24 August 2006 at 10:59pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk

Ed, I have the full-length album, promo CD single, and commercial CD single for "Mama Said Knock You Out." You are correct that the sound effects are a tad bit longer at the beginning on the CD single versions. The commercial CD single has the Original Receipe (long) version that is on your cassingle.
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Posted: 02 September 2006 at 12:49pm | IP Logged Quote edtop40

ok...i just purchased the commercial cd single that was issued at the time as def jam/columbia 44k 73703 and it is indeed identical to the cassingle version....the only difference is the intro is a second longer on the cassingle/cd sgl than on the full cd/lp version..........ok, now..........what do we do about this one..........related to the alanah myles issue..........do we state in the db that all version are the lp version all for a second longer pipe intro....again....the 2 versions (full cd and single) are different.....and if we are going to be consistant should we also NOT differentiate these 2 version.........anyone???

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Posted: 02 September 2006 at 12:57pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk

Ed, that's a great question. It goes back to the question "where do we draw the line?"

The sound effects at the beginning of the single are actually more like a half second longer...not even a full second. Other than that, there is no other difference between the two.

As a reader/subscriber of the database, what do you think would be best? Personally, I think a note next to the song title would do the trick. Reading "LP version" next to each entry would make me think there is a reason I should track down the 45 version. It's another case where I would be disappointed to learn that the only difference is this split second of extra sound effects is it. Perhaps the comment:

Beginning sound effects on the commercial single start a half second earlier than the LP version. (a note at the top)
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Posted: 09 September 2006 at 10:34am | IP Logged Quote Todd Ireland

Looks like Pat is going with the 45 version/LP version designation. This one is a very tough call where a good case can probably be made either way.
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Posted: 20 February 2022 at 5:04pm | IP Logged Quote eriejwg

Does anyone have edit points for the original recipe short
version?

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Posted: 20 February 2022 at 8:54pm | IP Logged Quote eriejwg

I managed to find it online.

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Posted: 15 May 2022 at 6:17pm | IP Logged Quote chendagam

I have always been curious about the following: Did radio
stations play the "original recipe short" or the "original
recipe long (aka lp version)" back in 1991?
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Posted: 15 May 2022 at 10:27pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk

There were no urban stations in my area in 1991, so my initial exposure was via MTV. The video was played a ton and uses the full LP version.

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