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Posted: 02 June 2006 at 10:04am | IP Logged Quote maciav
Pat or Somebody Who Can Help Me,

I hope this isn't a dumb question, but can somebody explain what "Sundi" version means for this single? Was this the record company or something?

Thanks.

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Posted: 02 June 2006 at 10:20am | IP Logged Quote davidclark
no question is dumb, maciav! the single was originally released on the Sundi label, that version being the hit. When it became a hit, the group signed with Warner Brothers and re-recorded the song. Both versions appear on re-issue CDs [short version of history].

Edited by davidclark on 02 June 2006 at 10:50am

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Posted: 02 June 2006 at 11:50am | IP Logged Quote jimct
Embarrased to admit, for some unexplained reason, one of my 5 personal all-time favorite songs. I'll provide exact time info for the mono 45 later (no time right now), but the Sundi 45 may just squeeze in FOUR full sings of the title at the very end; all stereo versions I've heard have it gone by the end of the second. Due to this, I allege that the mono 45 is longer than all Sundi stereo versions. I also remember a nice, solid bass line throughout on the 45. MIA on the stereo v, perhaps? I'll wait for confirmation from the "trained ears."
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Posted: 02 June 2006 at 12:26pm | IP Logged Quote AndrewChouffi
To Jim:

The Sundi album version was released in 180 degrees out-of-phase stereo which is why the bass seems buried in the mix.

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Posted: 02 June 2006 at 2:46pm | IP Logged Quote TomDiehl1
I'm told that the best sounding version of the song (in-phase from the Sundi session master) is on the cd Rock & Roll: The First 50 Years: The Late 60's on Varese. So, if it still isn't as long on that cd as the original single, then someone goofed, since the label does try to get their songs out in as close to the original single versions as possible.

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Posted: 03 June 2006 at 10:38pm | IP Logged Quote Todd Ireland
According to the database, Tom, "Love Can Make You Happy" runs 3:11 just like all other stereo CD appearances. Mono CD appearances all pretty much run around 3:17. I presume the latter time is the correct 45 length? If so, then Varese didn't get it right on the Rock & Roll The First 50 Years: The Late '60s disc.
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Posted: 03 June 2006 at 11:26pm | IP Logged Quote Jeff H.
jimct wrote:
Embarrased to admit, for some unexplained reason, one of my 5 personal all-time favorite songs. I'll provide exact time info for the mono 45 later (no time right now), but the Sundi 45 may just squeeze in FOUR full sings of the title at the very end; all stereo versions I've heard have it gone by the end of the second. Due to this, I allege that the mono 45 is longer than all Sundi stereo versions. I also remember a nice, solid bass line throughout on the 45. MIA on the stereo v, perhaps? I'll wait for confirmation from the "trained ears."



Jim, I have a copy of the original Sundi 45. You're right, that record has an amazing amount of bass in mono! I have "Love(Can Make You Happy)" on a Dick Bartley compilation called "Love Songs". I think that version is in stereo. Doesn't have the same fat low end as the 45 but still sounds very good. You can tell the song wasn't recorded in a great studio but the performance is awesome.
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Posted: 04 June 2006 at 7:08am | IP Logged Quote davidclark
so, is the original LP length 3:11 and the 45 3:17? or did the LP too run 3:17 and all CDs fade it early at 3:11? as a matter of history...

Edited by davidclark on 04 June 2006 at 7:09am

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Posted: 04 June 2006 at 12:16pm | IP Logged Quote Pat Downey
My Sundi LP version runs (3:13) not (3:11) as stated on the record label and the Sundi 45 runs (3:19) exactly as stated on the record label.
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Posted: 06 June 2006 at 8:00am | IP Logged Quote maciav
Thanks to David Clark for explaining to me what "Sundi version" means!!

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Posted: 19 February 2018 at 9:54am | IP Logged Quote Pat Downey
A group member has pointed out that the Warner Brothers version of this song has appeared on a domestic cd which I previously was not aware of. An internet search shows there is only one cd which may have the Warner Brothers version included titled "Love Can Make You Happy" and that was licensed by Henry Stone in 2009. It is very expensive and there is no mention of the country of origin so if anyone has a DOMESTIC copy of any cd with the Warner Brothers version please pass along the pertinent information (record label, catalog number, mono/stereo content, running time, year of release) so that I can include it in the database.
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Pat, the album is available digitally, so I can answer a
few questions for you.

Record label is listed as Henry Stone Music USA, Inc.
It is stereo
Run time is 3:22
Release date is listed as December 29, 2017.

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Digitally download only? If a physical cd exists what is the catalog number?
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Posted: 04 March 2018 at 6:28am | IP Logged Quote KentT
Wonder if this ever got a CD release? I suspect CD-R on
demand if so.

Edited by KentT on 04 March 2018 at 6:30am

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The Warner album issued by Henry Stone Music was on CD but
limited release and it was not "official" - just a boot,
and yes, likely a CDR.
After the legal issues took place in '69 and '70 Warner
has never issued the song since and makes no claim to it.

The 2 digital versions of the album posted are cleaned-up
disc dubs.
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Posted: 06 March 2018 at 2:38am | IP Logged Quote davidclark
I have had the WB version of "Love (Can Make You Happy)" since
1992 on the 1990 Japanese Warner Brothers CD "History Of
American Pops Vol. 2". I believe it's from a tape - it sounds great.

Just figured out how to share a file in Dropbox:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/nwpvrndr1vtjrgs/History%20Of%20Ame
rican%20Pops%20%20Vol.%202.jpg?dl=0

Edited by davidclark on 06 March 2018 at 2:52am

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